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Sunday 30 January 2011

Big Fight - Terrible Ending

Timothy Bradley vs Devon Alexander - WBO , WBC Light Welterweight Titles


They say styles make fights ?? well that certainly was the case on Saturday night at the Silverdome in Michigan USA when Tim Bradley and Devon Alexander fought to an unsatisfactory ending ,  Alexander made all the right noises to quit in the 10th round therefore the fight going to the scorecards.

Thank god the judges scored this fight correctly as they gave Tim Bradley a unanimous technical decision after 10 rounds. I watched the fight originally on a stream and scored 98-92 to Bradley but when i got home i watched the fight again , this time scoring 97-93 Bradley. One round of a difference.... the 6th.

This fight was difficult to score as most of the rounds were very close. I went for the come forward fighter in Bradley as it seemed Alexander was always backing off and not throwing enough punches. Fight fans around the world mostly had Bradley winning but there were a few that had the fight a draw. One or two even had Alexander winning??

Punch stats for the fight actually had Alexander out landing Bradley so it goes to show how sometimes these stats can be so wrong when just about everyone had Bradley winning by 2-4 points.

Like always my scorecard is below with all the fans scores , written press scores , TV scores and boxing website scores etc etc etc

TIMOTHY BRADLEY VS DEVON ALEXANDER

http://www.boxing-core.com/videos/_Timothy_Bradley_vs_Devon_Alexander_Part_1_of_3?vid=10002526&tid=107  part 1

http://www.boxing-core.com/videos/_Timothy_Bradley_vs_Devon_Alexander_Part_2_of_3?vid=10002527&tid=107   part 2

http://www.boxing-core.com/videos/_Timothy_Bradley_vs_Devon_Alexander_Part_3_of_3?vid=10002528&tid=107   part 3


Round 1.....Bradley 10-9
Round 2.....Bradley 10-9
Round 3.....Bradley 10-9
Round 4.....Bradley 10-9
Round 5.....Alexander 10-9
Round 6.....Alexander 10-9
Round 7.....Alexander 10-9
Round 8.....Bradley 10-9
Round 9.....Bradley 10-9
Round 10...Bradley 10-9.....this round was only 1 min old due to the head clash.

TOTAL.....97-93 Timothy Bradley

Judges scores : Tom Miller....... 96-95 Bradley
                       Duane Ford.......97-93 Bradley
                       Omar Mintun.....98-93 Bradley



TIMOTHY BRADLEY WIND BY UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION AFTER 10

TV Boxing sites and Fans scores

HBO - Lederman 87-84 Bradley after 9 rounds
            Merchant 96-94 Bradley

SKY - Jim Watt 86-85 Bradley after 9 rounds

ESPN - Dan Rafael 97-93 Bradley

World Boxing News - 95-95 Draw

Ben Thompson (Fighthype) - 97-93 Bradley

Javier Rosas Jnr (boxingtalk) - 97-94 Bradley
Greg Leon (boxingtalk) had it a draw but with no card

George Elsmssar (bragging rights corner) - Bradley 98-92

Boxrec fans - 9-1 in favor of Bradley with most scores being 97-93

Boxingscene - 17-0-3 in favor of Bradley with most scores 97-93 or 96-94 , The draw was 95-95

Eastsideboxing - 12-1 in favor of Bradley with most scores 97-93 or 96-94

Budwieser forum fans - 3-0 in favor of Bradley with again most score 97-93

Bad Left Hook - 98-93 Bradley

Friday 28 January 2011

Controversy And Lost Respect In Las Vegas

 Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad - WBC , IBF Welterweight Titles


In one of the last great fights of the 90s boxing superstars Oscar De La Hoya and Felix Trinidad finally got into the ring together. Many were expecting a modern day Leonard vs Hearns but what we ended up with was one very controversial fight which is still talked about today on the boxing websites and forums but also a fighter losing some of his fans and respect because of the way he finished the fight.

Oscar De La Hoya was the fighter who lost some respect , on course for his biggest victory he threw it away but running away from Felix Trinidad in the last 4 rounds and therefore blowing the fight. De La Hoya lost  part of his fan base that night as the Mexican fans began to turn their back on the Goldenboy because they feel a boxing warrior should fight till the death (and I'm not kidding when i mean death).

Going round the boxing forums and collating the scorecards from various press agencies i was a bit surprised with sheer number of fans and writers that favored De La Hoya in this fight. I though it was a very close fight because of the way De la Hoya ran in those final 4 rounds. My scorecard just like it did when i watched the fight live read 115-114 Trinidad although i have no problem with the draw.

Many of the rounds were very close . The 8th round was the only round i scored even as i felt that both fighters scored equal amount of jabs and right hands. The DVD i have of this fight is actually a recording on HBO which shows how the judges were scoring it round after round. The 8th round was scored 2-1 to Trinidad by the judges although HBO judge Harold Lederman scored the round to De La Hoya. It really was a tough round and fight to judge.

This fight is very hard to find online because HBO have probably banned it from certain sites so i have only a link to a mega upload thread which has the fight from http://www.boxingscene.com/.

My scorecard is below like always along with boxing fans forums scores , tv and written press scores etc etc etc

OSCAR DE LA HOYA VS FELIX TRINIDAD

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407322&highlight=hoya+trinidad

Round 1.....De La Hoya
Round 2.....Trinidad
Round 3.....De La Hoya
Round 4.....Trinidad
Round 5.....De La Hoya
Round 6.....De La Hoya
Round 7.....De La Hoya
Round 8.....Draw
Round 9.....Trinidad
Round 10...Trinidad
Round 11...Trinidad
Round 12...Trinidad

TOTAL... 115-114 Felix Trinidad

Judges Scores : Glen Hamada 114-114 Draw
                         Bob Logist 115-114 Trinidad
                         Jerry Roth 115-113 Trinidad

FELIX TRINIDAD WINS BY MAJORITY DECISION

TV , Boxing Sites And Fans Scores

HBO - Harold Lederman 114-114 , Larry Merchant 115-114 De La Hoya

Boxingscene fans - 33-6-8 (w l d) in favor of De La Hoya with most scores ranging from 115-113 to 116-112 some even went a wide 117-111....the fans who scored Trinidad had it 115-113 or 115-114

Associated Press - scored 115-113 De La Hoya

Boxrec fans - 22-6-1 (w l d) in favor of De La Hoya again with most scores 115-113 or 116-112 some had it tighter 115-114....fans who picked Trinidad score by 115-114 or 115-113

NY Times - scored for De La Hoya but left no scorecard.

Boxingforum fans - 6-2 in favor of De La Hoya again scores from 115-113 to 116-112

Boxingchronicle - 116-112 De La Hoya

LA Times - Steve Springer 115-113 De La Hoya , Tim KawaKami 115-113 De La Hoya
                 

Sunday 23 January 2011

Jamie McDonnell In Early Fight Of The Year

Jamie McDonnell vs Stephane Jamoye - European Bantamweight Title


Sky Sports got their boxing season off to a great start last night with an early candidate for fight of the year. Jamie McDonnell successfully defended his European Bantamweight Title against tough Belgian Stephane Jamoye winning on a majority points decision.

Going around the major boxing forums i found that just about everybody had this fight very close with scores of 114-113 or 115-113 being scored for both fighters. One thing i noticed was that on the "worldwide" parts of forums and non British websites they seemed to all favor jamoye. British websites and forums disagreed and mostly thought that McDonnell had done enough to defend his title.

My scorecard read 115-112 to McDonnell , slightly wider than most although i think my scoring of the 12th round to McDonnell changed my card from being like many a 114-113 score. I though that the Belgian started the round well and won the first minute but McDonnell responded and for me won the final 2 minutes of the round. I also believe that the point deduction for McDonnell in the 11th (fully deserved after repeated warnings) made this fight a lot closer.

McDonnell vs Jamoye full fight - thanks to Frank Maloneys youtube website

http://www.youtube.com/maloneypromotions#p/a/u/2/YvwZBqMXiu4 rounds 1-4

http://www.youtube.com/maloneypromotions#p/a/u/1/mvTiZRsWXYk rounds 5-8

http://www.youtube.com/maloneypromotions#p/a/u/0/rl0h5DE4aBA rounds 9-12

Below is my Scorecard and the official judges scores. I have also added the Sky TV scores along with the average scores from the major boxing websites.

Round 1.....Jamoye 10-9
Round 2.....Jamoye 10-9
Round 3.....McDonnell 10-9
Round 4.....Jamoye 10-9
Round 5.....McDonnell 10-9
Round 6.....McDonnell 10-9
Round 7.....McDonnell 10-9
Round 8.....McDonnell 10-9
Round 10...McDonnell 10-9
Round 11...Jamoye 10-8
Round 12...McDonnell 10-9

TOTAL...115-112 Jamie McDonnell

Judges scores : Esa Lehtosaari 115-113 McDonnell
                      : Juergen Langos 114-113 McDonnell
                      : Christophe Fernandez 114-114 Draw

JAMIE MCDONNELL WINS BY MAJORITY DECISION

TV , Boxing sites and Fans scores

Sky TV - Jim Watt 115-114 McDonnell , Bob Mee 114-113 McDonnell , Spencer Oliver has McDonnell by 1 round as did Adam Smith

East side boxing - (general forum) the fans voted 5-2 in favor of Jamoye with most common scores of 114-113 or 115-113

East side boxing - (British forum) the fans voted 8-1-1 in favor to McDonnell with most common scores of 114-113 or 115-113

Boxingscenes Alexy Sukadev scored the fight 115-113 McDonnell

Boxrec - (British forum) the fans voted 5-0-1 in favor of McDonnell again with scores of 114-113 and 115-113

Ian McNeilly also of Boxrec had the fight 114-113 McDonnell

Livefight fans voted 2-1-1 in favor of McDonnell

Badlefthook - fans voted 2-0 to jamoye with scores of 114-113 and the widest i saw for Jamoye 115-112

Andrew Wake of Secondsout.com thought that McDonnel won but didn't give a score

Tuesday 18 January 2011

Biggest Robbery In Boxing

In this boxingscorecard blog i will be judging lots of boxing fights past and present and putting my scorecard on it. I will also when i can add video links to the fight. Another theme i hoping to put on boxingscorecard is the scores from the fight fans that frequent numerous boxing sites and forums to gauge if the REAL boxing judges scored a fight correctly AND if i did the same. With all the TV and Internet exposure i will also put the scores of the  EXPERTS (don't laugh) from SKY , HBO , ESPN, BOXING MAGAZINES etc and many many more boxing websites.

I hope you will enjoy my blog as I've been meaning to do this for some time. My first live fight of 2011 to be judged will be the European Bantamweight title fight between champion Jamie McDonnell vs Stephane Jamoye. This fight will be on SKY SPORTS on Saturday 22nd January starting at 8pm.

Below is a template of how this blog will be presented. The headline above "Biggest Robbery In Boxing" is a fight that i think is the worst judged fight in history. It is between champion Jose Luis Ramirez and Pernell Whitaker. The fight took place in France way back in 1988. My scorecard is followed by the judges scores , boxing 88 mag score and scores from some fight fans on boxrec.com and boxingscene.com. I have also added youtube links to the fight itself so feel free to watch the fight and comment on the terrible scoring.

PERNELL WHITAKER VS JOSE LUIS RAMIREZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7_zauncYT0&feature=&p=FCF3DAE9FC906679&index=0&playnext=1 PART 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2edhFZMxaso&feature=related PART 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdy3L8mzKls&feature=related PART 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bNswknO8xU&feature=related PART 4

Round 1.....whitaker 10-9
Round 2.....whitaker 10-9
Round 3.....whitaker 10-9
Round 4.....whitaker 10-9
Round 5.....whitaker 10-9
Round 6.....ramirez   9-10
Round 7.....ramirez   9-10
Round 8.....whitaker 10-9
Round 9.....whitaker 10-9
Round 10...whitaker 10-9
Round 11...whitaker 10-9
Round 12...whitaker 10-9

TOTAL.....118-110 Pernell Whitaker

Judges scorecards : Harry Gibbs......... 117-113 whitaker (the only sane judge there)
                              Newton Campos...118-113 ramirez
                              Louis Michel..........116-115 ramirez

RAMIREZ WINS BY SPLIT DECISION.

boxing 88 score....118-111 whitaker
boxrec ave scores.117-111 whitaker or 118-110 whitaker
boxingscene ave....117-111 whitaker or 118-110 whitaker
Angelo Dundee.....had whitaker winning easily although in the commentary he doesn't give a scorecard
Dave Shipman (saddo boxing) said only the whitaker - chavez fight scorecard was worse than this